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  1. Default How to copy Eudora mailboxes to another computer (using Vista)

    I just bought a new computer, and of course it uses Vista. I was previously
    using Win XP-Home Edition. I copied all of my mailboxes (.mbx and .toc
    files) and also the address book (NNDbase.toc and NNDbase.nnd). I pasted
    these files into Eudora, but nothing shows up on the Eudora screen. Is
    there a different location in Vista where these files should be pasted? I
    have a great many messages that I would like to retrieve. Incidentally, I
    created a "phony" mailbox in Eudora to test this out, and it also is not
    listed in the folder where I expected to find it (that is, the location
    where it would have appeared in XP).

    Thanks for any help you can provide. I'm lost!

    MaryL


  2. Default Re: How to copy Eudora mailboxes to another computer (using Vista)

    On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 20:28:57 -0600, MaryL wrote:

    > I just bought a new computer, and of course it uses Vista.
    > I was previously using Win XP-Home Edition.


    > I copied all of my mailboxes (.mbx and .toc files)
    > and also the address book (NNDbase.toc and NNDbase.nnd).
    > I pasted these files into Eudora, but nothing shows up on the Eudora screen.


    Wherever you pasted the files was evidently not the default location
    which the newly installed Eudora was set up to use;
    if you pasted into the "Programs" folder, that was completely off the track,
    because Vista does not want to allow anyone to modify files in that area..

    > Is there a different location in Vista where these files should be pasted?


    Obviously.

    One approach is to open whatever folder your new installation is using,
    via Eudora's "Help" > "About," then click on the "Data: <path>" line;
    this is the folder where you should paste your old files,
    including "Eudora.ini" (my preference is to copy all original files,
    then delete only those which certainly don't belong there, if any,
    otherwise you may have left out something of actual importance,
    such as your filters, spelling file adjustments, etc.)

    If file "Eudora.ini" contains a line like:
    AutoReceiveAttachmentsDirectory=<path>
    then I would delete that line before starting to receive any new mail,
    because its old path is undoubtedly also now wrong.

    > Incidentally, I created a "phony" mailbox in Eudora to test this out,
    > and it also is not listed in the folder where I expected to find it
    > (that is, the location where it would have appeared in XP).


    Vista uses changed path names, even at higher levels.

    > Thanks for any help you can provide. I'm lost!


    Well, "Lynn" (a few posts back) has also found the new Yellow Brick Road,
    and I hope you do, too

    --

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    "John H Meyers" <jhmeyers@nomail.invalid> wrote in message
    newsp.t47oc5kznn735j@miu.edu...
    On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 20:28:57 -0600, MaryL wrote:

    > I just bought a new computer, and of course it uses Vista.
    > I was previously using Win XP-Home Edition.


    > I copied all of my mailboxes (.mbx and .toc files)
    > and also the address book (NNDbase.toc and NNDbase.nnd).
    > I pasted these files into Eudora, but nothing shows up on the Eudora
    > screen.


    Wherever you pasted the files was evidently not the default location
    which the newly installed Eudora was set up to use;
    if you pasted into the "Programs" folder, that was completely off the track,
    because Vista does not want to allow anyone to modify files in that area.

    Yes, that's where I pasted the files (just as I did in XP, but obviously a
    big mistake with Vista -- I have learned something!)

    > Is there a different location in Vista where these files should be pasted?


    Obviously.

    One approach is to open whatever folder your new installation is using,
    via Eudora's "Help" > "About," then click on the "Data: <path>" line;
    this is the folder where you should paste your old files,
    including "Eudora.ini" (my preference is to copy all original files,
    then delete only those which certainly don't belong there, if any,
    otherwise you may have left out something of actual importance,
    such as your filters, spelling file adjustments, etc.)

    I have used Eudora for years, and I did not realize that I could simply
    click on the path in the "about" file. That worked! Thank you very much.
    I uninstalled and reinstalled Eudora first, but the original files that I
    pasted in the the Programs folder are still there, so I will need to
    manually delete them. Fortunately, I still have the original file I used,
    so I can use that as my guide to make sure I don't delete any "extras."

    --
    MaryL

    If file "Eudora.ini" contains a line like:
    AutoReceiveAttachmentsDirectory=<path>
    then I would delete that line before starting to receive any new mail,
    because its old path is undoubtedly also now wrong.

    > Incidentally, I created a "phony" mailbox in Eudora to test this out,
    > and it also is not listed in the folder where I expected to find it
    > (that is, the location where it would have appeared in XP).


    Vista uses changed path names, even at higher levels.

    > Thanks for any help you can provide. I'm lost!


    Well, "Lynn" (a few posts back) has also found the new Yellow Brick Road,
    and I hope you do, too

    -- =


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    On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 23:57:38 -0600, MaryL wrote:

    > I have used Eudora for years, and I did not realize that
    > I could simply click on the path in the "about" file.


    That's because this is new in version 7.1.0.9

    > Yes, I pasted the files into the "Programs" folder.


    Simply uninstalling would,
    by the way, remove the installed "Program" files
    but leave any files you added, which you could then delete,
    then re-install to replace the actual "program" files which belong there.

    No matter what you delete, a re-install would replace everything needed,
    so it is very hard to go wrong, given the very straightforward (and safe)
    manner in which Eudora installs (and even uninstalls) itself.

    One could wish that other software was as simple and safe,
    but the newer the software, the less so, it would seem.

    It's a good idea to have the "data" finally separated from the program;
    it would be harmless to even initially leave your old program files
    mixed in with your copied "data" folder, then remove files which you
    can see exist as well in the new (freshly installed, with no old files)
    Programs folder, and optionally also delete any then emptied folders
    (all required folders are regenerated anyway, as necessary).

    I hope it soon opens up whole new Vistas for you,
    and that the promised Service Pack comes along soon enough
    to avoid encountering known bugs which came with Vista,
    but get blamed on existing software,
    continuing the tradition of all major Microsoft updates:

    "I sat next the Duchess at tea;
    It was just as I feared it might be:
    Her rumblings internal
    were simply infernal
    and everyone thought it was me."

    --

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    "John H Meyers" <jhmeyers@nomail.invalid> wrote in message
    newsp.t48b8tkvnn735j@miu.edu...
    > On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 23:57:38 -0600, MaryL wrote:
    >
    >> I have used Eudora for years, and I did not realize that
    >> I could simply click on the path in the "about" file.

    >
    > That's because this is new in version 7.1.0.9
    >
    >> Yes, I pasted the files into the "Programs" folder.

    >
    > Simply uninstalling would,
    > by the way, remove the installed "Program" files
    > but leave any files you added, which you could then delete,
    > then re-install to replace the actual "program" files which belong there.


    Aha! That's exactly what happened.

    >
    > No matter what you delete, a re-install would replace everything needed,
    > so it is very hard to go wrong, given the very straightforward (and safe)
    > manner in which Eudora installs (and even uninstalls) itself.
    >


    Good. I could uninstall and reinstall again (easy enough since my settings
    would be saved), but it sounds like even that is not necessary.

    > One could wish that other software was as simple and safe,
    > but the newer the software, the less so, it would seem.
    >
    > It's a good idea to have the "data" finally separated from the program;
    > it would be harmless to even initially leave your old program files
    > mixed in with your copied "data" folder, then remove files which you
    > can see exist as well in the new (freshly installed, with no old files)
    > Programs folder, and optionally also delete any then emptied folders
    > (all required folders are regenerated anyway, as necessary).
    >
    > I hope it soon opens up whole new Vistas for you,
    > and that the promised Service Pack comes along soon enough
    > to avoid encountering known bugs which came with Vista,
    > but get blamed on existing software,
    > continuing the tradition of all major Microsoft updates:
    >

    --
    MaryL ;-)


    > "I sat next the Duchess at tea;
    > It was just as I feared it might be:
    > Her rumblings internal
    > were simply infernal
    > and everyone thought it was me."
    >
    > --



  6. Default Re: How to copy Eudora mailboxes to another computer (using Vista)

    Mary,

    Did you get stuff installed (reinstalled?) to your satisfaction? I
    recently had similar issues with reinstalling Eudora 7.1.09 which took
    me while to figure out. I think it's because Vista is still relatively
    new. Vista's setup is quite different than previous versions of
    Windows. Unfortunately, just uninstalling may not do the trick as
    instructions telling the program what to do may be squirreled away in
    various locations, including the registry. If things aren't working
    the way you want, you need to start fresh.

    First, be sure your backup data is tucked away somewhere safely: I
    created a "EudoraBak" folder on my desktop for easy access, plus when
    stuff came up in my search, it was easy to recognize. Search your HD
    for any mention of "Qualcomm" or "Eudora" (except for your backup and
    install program) and get rid of it. Then, after backing up your
    Registry, use "regedit" to go through your registry and delete
    anything to do with your install. NOTE: if you're not comfortable
    doing this, DON'T! I'm not sure if you can work around it, but it's
    worth a try rather than screwing yourself up. Also, should you decide
    to "regedit," you need to check every item, rather than letting a
    program do it for you. (you know, one of those nice registry cleaner-
    uppers). There will be one or two entries that you probably will not
    be able to delete. One is called "IStreamPseudoBased" where "Eudora
    must be encoded somewhere. Still haven't figured that one out. Anyway,
    after you've done the above, restart.

    When you install Eudora again, stick to the default directory it
    picks. When it asks you where you want the data, you're going to want
    to put it where Eudora says, but select "Custom" and type it in
    yourself. It should be "YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora,"
    then complete the install. When you're done, unplug yourself from your
    DSL or whatever you use to ensure that stuff doesn't download before
    you've set things up. Open Eudora just to make sure it works. Then,
    close it.

    The new data should be in the above. Before I copied my old stuff, I
    made a copy of the new "ini" just in case it didn't work. copy your
    data into the above directory. Assuming you previously had the normal
    paths, everything should work great. Open Eudora again, and all ought
    to be as before. Close it again and plug yourself back in. When you
    reopen Eudora, your mail should download and filter as it previously
    did. (you may already do this, but I leave my mail on the server for a
    couple of days in case I run into a problem. this way I run less of a
    risk of losing things.)

    Hope this helps,
    Lynn

    On Jan 19, 9:28 pm, "MaryL" <stanco...@TAKE-OUT-THE-TRASH-yahoo.com>
    wrote:
    > I just bought a new computer, and of course it uses Vista. I was previously
    > using Win XP-Home Edition. I copied all of my mailboxes (.mbx and .toc
    > files) and also the address book (NNDbase.toc and NNDbase.nnd). I pasted
    > these files into Eudora, but nothing shows up on the Eudora screen. Is
    > there a different location in Vista where these files should be pasted? I
    > have a great many messages that I would like to retrieve. Incidentally, I
    > created a "phony" mailbox in Eudora to test this out, and it also is not
    > listed in the folder where I expected to find it (that is, the location
    > where it would have appeared in XP).
    >
    > Thanks for any help you can provide. I'm lost!
    >
    > MaryL



  7. Default Re: How to copy Eudora mailboxes to another computer (using Vista)

    MaryL wrote:
    > I just bought a new computer, and of course it uses Vista. I was
    > previously using Win XP-Home Edition. I copied all of my mailboxes
    > (.mbx and .toc files) and also the address book (NNDbase.toc and
    > NNDbase.nnd). I pasted these files into Eudora, but nothing shows up on
    > the Eudora screen. Is there a different location in Vista where these
    > files should be pasted? I have a great many messages that I would like
    > to retrieve. Incidentally, I created a "phony" mailbox in Eudora to
    > test this out, and it also is not listed in the folder where I expected
    > to find it (that is, the location where it would have appeared in XP).
    >
    > Thanks for any help you can provide. I'm lost!
    >
    > MaryL
    >

    I had copied my whole Eudora folder from the old machine into my
    document folder in new Vista computer.

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    "lynn" <lynnward@earthlink.net> wrote in message
    news:43acb2cb-6bc2-49cb-8db9-37afb65b9c19@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
    > Mary,
    >
    > Did you get stuff installed (reinstalled?) to your satisfaction? I
    > recently had similar issues with reinstalling Eudora 7.1.09 which took
    > me while to figure out. I think it's because Vista is still relatively
    > new. Vista's setup is quite different than previous versions of
    > Windows. Unfortunately, just uninstalling may not do the trick as
    > instructions telling the program what to do may be squirreled away in
    > various locations, including the registry. If things aren't working
    > the way you want, you need to start fresh.
    >
    > First, be sure your backup data is tucked away somewhere safely: I
    > created a "EudoraBak" folder on my desktop for easy access, plus when
    > stuff came up in my search, it was easy to recognize. Search your HD
    > for any mention of "Qualcomm" or "Eudora" (except for your backup and
    > install program) and get rid of it. Then, after backing up your
    > Registry, use "regedit" to go through your registry and delete
    > anything to do with your install. NOTE: if you're not comfortable
    > doing this, DON'T! I'm not sure if you can work around it, but it's
    > worth a try rather than screwing yourself up. Also, should you decide
    > to "regedit," you need to check every item, rather than letting a
    > program do it for you. (you know, one of those nice registry cleaner-
    > uppers). There will be one or two entries that you probably will not
    > be able to delete. One is called "IStreamPseudoBased" where "Eudora
    > must be encoded somewhere. Still haven't figured that one out. Anyway,
    > after you've done the above, restart.
    >
    > When you install Eudora again, stick to the default directory it
    > picks. When it asks you where you want the data, you're going to want
    > to put it where Eudora says, but select "Custom" and type it in
    > yourself. It should be "YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora,"
    > then complete the install. When you're done, unplug yourself from your
    > DSL or whatever you use to ensure that stuff doesn't download before
    > you've set things up. Open Eudora just to make sure it works. Then,
    > close it.
    >
    > The new data should be in the above. Before I copied my old stuff, I
    > made a copy of the new "ini" just in case it didn't work. copy your
    > data into the above directory. Assuming you previously had the normal
    > paths, everything should work great. Open Eudora again, and all ought
    > to be as before. Close it again and plug yourself back in. When you
    > reopen Eudora, your mail should download and filter as it previously
    > did. (you may already do this, but I leave my mail on the server for a
    > couple of days in case I run into a problem. this way I run less of a
    > risk of losing things.)
    >
    > Hope this helps,
    > Lynn
    >
    >


    I did not snip any of your excellent message. As it turns out, though, I am
    still lost! I thought I understood and even sent a response to that effect,
    but now I find that I cannot locate the folders and files unless I
    double-click on the path in Eudora's Help>About.

    Before I saw your message, I uninstalled and reinstalled Eudora. I
    double-clicked on the path and accepted that. I didn't see any place to
    enter custom. How did you locate that?

    When I try to search for the files and folders, I can't find them anywhere
    except in the folder where I saved them from XP. In fact, I am so new to
    Vista (just since yesterday) that I can't even understand the search
    function. Search was simple in XP, and I could select files and folders on
    the computer to do so. In Vista, if I select "all," I end up with searches
    of my Internet newsgroups - which is what I want - and if I select "e-mail"
    or "documents," I get nothing. Incidentally, I *can* easily find my data by
    using Search (such as WordPerfect documents), and it even locates specific
    messages in Eudora (and shows the full path, even though I cannot manually
    trace that path). I am specifically talking about failure to find any
    Eudora folders when I said that search does not produce any results. Also,
    a search for "Eudora" returned numerous documents where I saved information
    about Eudora, but no Eudora folders (even though they are obviously on the
    computer). A search for Qualcomm pointed to the messages in this newsgroup
    but nothing else.

    I can still find the folders if I double-click on the path in Eudora again,
    but I can't find the folders any other way. When I try to use computer to
    search, I go to C:\users\Mary...and then I come to a halt because there is
    no AppData in the Mary folder that I can see!

    Yes, I really am afraid to try to do anything with Registry. You were
    correct in that assumption. Despite all this, Eudora seems to be operating
    as expected, but I do want to make sure I won't have problems in the future;
    and I want to be able to backup Eudora folders.

    I greatly appreciate the time you took to print so many details, but I'm
    sure you can see that I'm still wandering without knowing what to do. From
    this cumbersome description, can you determine where I am going wrong?

    Thanks!!!

    MaryL


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    <snip>

    Frank <frankdotlogullo@comcastperiodnet> wrote in
    news:aP6dnfbDfcIoSw7anZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@comcast.com:

    > I had copied my whole Eudora folder from the old machine into my
    > document folder in new Vista computer.
    >

    That's the way to do it. You THEN install Eudora, and it will find the
    folder where the mailboxes are.

    --
    Best regards
    Han
    email address is invalid

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    Han wrote:
    > <snip>
    >
    > Frank <frankdotlogullo@comcastperiodnet> wrote in
    > news:aP6dnfbDfcIoSw7anZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@comcast.com:
    >
    >> I had copied my whole Eudora folder from the old machine into my
    >> document folder in new Vista computer.
    >>

    > That's the way to do it. You THEN install Eudora, and it will find the
    > folder where the mailboxes are.
    >


    Yes, that is what I did afterwards. Could not remember all the
    machinations but they also included making Eudora my Vista mail client.

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